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Clay Shirky: Physicians And Patients Need To Fuse Their Online Conversations

New Media guru Clay Shirky was the keynote speaker at the Management of Change conference in Norfolk, Virginia. His recent book, Here Comes Everybody, is considered a must-read by most web 2.0 enthusiasts. Clay and I escaped the conference for a tête-á-tête at a local Starbucks where we wrestled with the thorny issues of healthcare and crowd sourcing.

Dr. Val: I’ve noticed that there is a difference between being right and being influential. Doctors are having a hard time adjusting their tone to be more compelling in a social media culture. What do you think physicians can do to be more influential online?

Shirky: The problem is that, since we all die eventually, everyone will be unhappy with their healthcare at some point. This creates a social dilemma that’s neither transitory nor small. First, there will always be snake oil salesmen peddling “eternal life,” and second, there will always be an unhappy faction who rail against the medical establishment. You should not try to stamp out that faction, but referee it. Federalist Papers No. 10 states that faction is the normal case of government - the trick is not to allow factions to gain disproportionate power. Physicians need to realize that patients have different priorities than they do, and speak to those as much as possible.

Dr. Val: What do you mean that we have different priorities?

Shirky: Take Medpedia for example - physicians are eager to write about rare types of liver cancer, but they don’t want to write about the basics of biopsy technique. For the physician, it’s perfectly obvious what a liver biopsy entails, so he/she doesn’t think to write about it. But the patient is probably more interested in learning about biopsy procedure than the scientific details of a rare liver cancer. The entries in Medpedia strongly reflect physician interests and priorities, though the resource is ultimately supposed to serve the educational needs of patients.

Dr. Val: What’s the best way to close that gap in priorities?

Shirky: We need to fuse the conversation between physicians and patients. The more they work together, the more valuable the content will be.

Dr. Val: What do you think about the trend towards “user-generated healthcare?”

Shirky: It’s important to have checks and balances. When lay people discuss medicine, their unguided conversation can degenerate into vitamin hucksterism. I think that whole movement was initiated when the FDA decided not to regulate the supplement industry - people have been used to getting input from others who aren’t scientifically qualified. Now everyone gives medical advice, and people listen.

Social media is a very new phenomenon. We have not figured out how to apply good checks and balances yet - amateurs’ opinions and voices can drown out the experts. We want to believe that everyone’s opinion is equally valid - but that’s just not the case. In the end, quality and clarity of messaging is a source of power.


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3 Responses to “Clay Shirky: Physicians And Patients Need To Fuse Their Online Conversations”

  1. Interesting! I hope we get a lot of discussion. I would dispute that the Medpedia is just for patients. I think it is conceived as also being a resource for doctors. And its content will evolve.

    I don't think Clay is giving us too many answers, but is he asking the right questions?

  2. Victor says:

    And there will always be an unhappy faction among the medical establishment who rail against positive change. It's not always patients who do the “railing.”

  3. Victor says:

    And there will always be an unhappy faction among the medical establishment who rail against positive change. It's not always patients who do the “railing.”

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